Calculation internal pressure for thick-walled pipes - Printable Version +- PLE forum (http://www.ple4win.nl/forum) +-- Forum: Support (http://www.ple4win.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=5) +--- Forum: Ple4Win Calculation (http://www.ple4win.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=30) +--- Thread: Calculation internal pressure for thick-walled pipes (/showthread.php?tid=352) Calculation internal pressure for thick-walled pipes - shaswin - 18-12-2012 According to NEN 3651:2012 paragraph 8.5.2.1 there are two different formulas for the calculation of the hoop stress. There is a different between a thin-walled and thick-walled pipe. Formula hoop stress for a thin-walled pipe [attachment=433]: [attachment=432] Formula hoop stress for a thick-walled pipe [attachment=435]: [attachment=434] Ple4Win (v4.2.2 build 12112) uses always the thin-walled pipe formula. There should be a difference between a thin-walled and thick-walled pipe in the calculation of the hoop stress. RE: Calculation internal pressure for thick walled pipes - ir KW Radder - 31-12-2012 It should be noticed that the formulae for the hoop stress are given for the so-called 'simplified' strength calculation. In general NEN 3651:2012 paragraph 8.3.1 refers to NEN 3650 parts 1 to 5 for the (hoop) stress calculation, where only the formula for the thin-walled pipe is given. The formula for the thick-walled pipe changes to the formula for the thin-walled pipe if D/d approaches infinity. Originally PLE has been developed for the strength and stability calculation of 'thin-walled' pipelines. The hoop stress calculation in the NEN 3650 module is based on NEN 3650-2:2012. Nevertheless it is always good to apply a more accurate formula. Thank you for your remark. RE: Calculation internal pressure for thick walled pipes - shaswin - 31-12-2012 No problem Rien. When you will apply this formulae in Ple4Win the ratio D/T column from the PIPEDIM output table should be changed. D shouldn't be the external diameter but the average diameter and T should be T-MIN. So the ratio should be Dg/T-MIN. The wanings should be also updated when changed. This part of the helpfile should also be updated: Ref: Tables Reference > Output Tables > Pipe dimension data [PIPEDIM] > Table error description / ID: H310523 RE: Calculation internal pressure for thick-walled pipes - ir KW Radder - 12-05-2016 Hi Shaswin, This is to inform you that we are investigating the possibilities to incorporate the behaviour of a thick-walled pipe in PLE. These pipes may occur especially in offshore environments with high internal pressure. It is not only a matter of a different hoop stress, but it has an effect on internal forces and upheaval buckling risks as well. Of importance is the DNV code DNV-OS-F101 for submarine pipeline systems. RE: Calculation internal pressure for thick-walled pipes - shaswin - 13-05-2016 Nice. RE: Calculation internal pressure for thick-walled pipes - Dr. J Foerster - 20-05-2016 This issue has also been assigned to ticket no J-1885, see this topic for more about thick-walled pipelines